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foundation any negative effects as a result o controversy surrounding my cycling career. i will conclude my chairmanship. but he refuses to say sorry. there can surely be one person left in the world who thinks lance armstrong is innocent. and that's lance armstrong. the game is up, mr. armstrong, you cheated us all. shame on you. that's all tonight. that's all tonight. "a.c. 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good eek, everyone. 10:00 on the east coast. a lot to talk about. keeping them honest. mitt romney's record on women and something he said at the debate last night. turned kind of silly. you may know what we're talking about. even if you didn't watch the debate last night. you probably are familiar with the phrase binders full of women.
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one of the hot twitter hashtags. cute photos, snarky photos, binders of uncorners, hillary clinton, fat bastard, you name it. when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro it seems. the binders of women craze began minutes, literally after mitt romney uttered those words, responding to a question about equal pay for women. mr. romney pointed to the hiring process when he first became governor of massachusetts. let's listen. >> gosh, can't we find some women that are also qualified? we took a concerted effort to find women who had backgrounds to find women. they brought us whole binders full of women. >> that is a somewhat silly phrase. here is the totally serious context and why it's important to break it down. women may decide this election. look at this.
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president obama's formerly big advantage with female voters answers to be gone. whatever the size of it actually is, mitt romney can successfully narrow that gap, that would make the president's road to re-election very, very difficult. mr. romney said the president has failed american women and he claimed that "he went to a number of women groups and said can you help us find folks?" there's a problem with the timeline. we want to look at that tonight. the group in albuquerque a nonpartisan outfit, actually approached him, they put out a statement, and i quote "prior to the 2002 gubernatorial election, massgap approached the campaigns of shannon o'brien and mitt romney. they went to him and his democratic opponent as well. not as he claimed the other way around. mr. romney credited the
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recruiting effort that followed with helping him bring so many qualified women on board. and the campaign put this out from lieutenant governor kerry healey. as we took office, our administration sought the best and brightest women the commonwealth had to offer. but massgap study said that female recruitment dropped off by the end of his term. 42% in the first 2 1/2 years, to 26%. paul ryan rose to his boss' defense, saying "he was an exceptional -- he has an exceptional record of hiring women in prominent positions in his administration, and that's the point he was making last night. as for the obama campaign, they certainly see an opening. >> you heard the debate last night. governor romney asked a direct question about equal pay and started talking about binders.
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oh, the idea to go and ask where a qualified woman was, he just should have come to my house, he didn't need a binder. >> from debate claim to internet sensation to political free for all. before checking in on the campaign trail, though, let's dig deeper on how the romney record stands up to the facts. joining us is david s. bernstein, a 20-year veteran of boston journalism. you heard the governor's answer last night. did that square with your memory of what happened? >> no, it doesn't. immediately when i heard it, i reached out to some of the women who i know that were part of that effort. which they did initially in 2002, a coalition of some 40 women's groups in the state. formed that massgap project you just were described. in 2002 and in subsequent elections. like you said, they initiated the project.
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they worked at it for a number of months, reaching out to gather together and screen possible appointees, from you know women all over the state. to present to whoever ended up being in the corner office. the idea that he initiated it after beginning the process of filling his cabinet didn't square. i reached out, double checked it with the people involved. they agreed. >> is it any way that it might about have been an honest mistake? >> well, i don't think it's really impossible. during the campaign, it was actually something that his campaign and he signed a little of commitment to the project, after the primaries, the project reached out to both him and the democratic nominee, shannon
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o'brien, she signed it first and then he agreed to sign it, pledging to try to use this material that massgap was putting together, to try to move toward parody in the high-level appointments, also a candidate forum that he participated in that was part of this whole project. where they asked specifically about this project and how he was planning to fulfill it. it sounded like he was describing the way he found a number of apointes, but then took the step of initiating it, when it, in fact, was initiating by other people. >> putting binners aside, did he have a good record of appointing women. the idea was kind of to propel women to higher offices down the road. did it have that effect? >> there are different interpretations of his record. you can point to a number of
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high-level appointments he did make. particularly early on. as you pointed out, over the course of his -- of his four-year governorship, he actually declined from -- in terms of the number of -- number of women in those offices compared to his prior coming in. it was actually lower. there were also other issues aside from those appointees, and issues raised about his judicial appointees, 17 of his first 19 judge appointments were men, and then after some unfavorable press about that, he began appointing more women. and so it really depends -- it depends on how you want to take the record, certainly some of the most important positions, the people in charge of budget and transportation and business development, the ones that he was most concerned about, mostly went to men and mostly to men who had dealt with in his business career. one of the interesting things, and i'm not the only one mentioning this, that his claim
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seems to take for granted that he didn't know any qualified women after running businesses. and consulting for businesses for 25 years, which in and of itself is a little startling. >> david bernstein, thank you for being on with your reporting and recollection, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> joining us for more on how the two campaigns are handling this, jim acosta, traveling with mitt romney and chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. is the campaign concerned about the binder controversy. >> well, anderson, it's worth noting what romney did and did not talk about at his first post debate speech earlier today in chesapeake, virginia. he did not talk about that dustup between himself and the president over what happened in benghazi, but he did make reference to women voters, in his speech in chesapeake. he said that the president has failed america's women. that appeared to be a pretty blatant appeal to female voters in the audience there and all
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across the country. and, anderson, late in the day, he sent out a tweet of a web video featuring members of his cabinet back in massachusetts when he was governor there that were women. one of the women said in the web video that mitt romney understand working women and keep in mind that he made this response, made these remarks about binders full of women in response to a question about the lilly ledbetter act which is supposed to be an act that makes it easier for women to sue over pay equity issues, he did not address that question, and going into the remarks about how he was trying to staff his office with women in massachusetts, he didn't even mention the fact that his lieutenant governor was a woman. it was a sign that perhaps the president got under his skin and forced into a situation where he had an unforced error there. >> jessica, it seems the obama campaign believes they can get some mileage out of governor romney's remarks. >> yes, working it on the trail all day already.
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look, anderson, it was very unfortunate for governor romney. it sort of raises this question, can he reality to working women? it made it sound almost like working women are some mail order product you can order out of colored binders and, you know, there are so many directions you can go. what are the tabs in that binder say for each of the women? the problem for governor romney, two fold. one, if he's trying to show, and he is, that he can relate to and understand the frustrations that working women can go through, this does not suggest that he understands a sense of outsiderness that many women feel when they work for largely male environments and, two, raises a question, at the time this man had become governor was a top executive in the business world for multiple decades and didn't he know qualified women he could call upon? why did he need to get a binder full of women to find some. jim acosta pointed out, he did know women and had some on his
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staff, did himself a disservice with the way he phrased this. but the obama team is getting mileage out of it. >> he is talking about the role women had at bain capital? it is a male dominated profession, particularly back then. has he talked at all about that? he was focusing solely on his time as governor in the debate. >> actually, no, anderson. we have not heard mitt romney talk about that on the campaign trail, how women might have fared at his former investment firm. keep in mind the chief of staff for mitt romney, governor of massachusetts, was beth meyers who went on to run his 2008 campaign, and went on in 2012 to lead his vice presidential search. this is a candidate that has had women in high-level positions and worth noting in the last few minutes here, he had one of his top surrogates barbara comstock on the stage behind me and susan
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allen, wife of george allen, running for senate in virginia, is on stage. perhaps not just recalibrating, but who is appearing on the campaign trail on his behalf. >> the president had a big advantage with women voters all year is there concern that governor romney was making progress on that front? we were talking about the before the debate? >> they wouldn't openly talk about that and even contested polls that showed governor romney closing the gap. you have to look at the topics the president was bringing up at that debate, anderson, to know this is the voter group that the president is focused on and that he knew that this was the greatest area where he was hemorrhaging support and only growth opportunity. this is -- the women's vote that the president could win or lose on, if the president is going to be president another four years, it will be because of women. he will go hit connecticut tra
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sep -- contraception, the pay equity issue. and the larger issue, that mitt romney isn't a natural advocate in his bones for women in the workplace. >> jessica yellin, jim acosta, thanks. follow me on twitter, i'll be sweeting. late word of a terror suspect in custody, allegedly with ties to al qaeda. caught authorities say in what he believed to be the act of setting off a massive bomb in new york. we have more on that, tonight. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work
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breaking news. a man with ties to al qaeda has been arrested in a federal sting operation for allegedly planning a terror attack on the federal reserve bank of new york. according to federal authorities who say the 21-year-old suspect, a bangladeshi national tried to detonate what he thought was a 1,000-pound bomb. there was no threat to the public. the suspect faces charges of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to provide material support to
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al qaeda. on now to the act of terror that killed four americans in benghazi, libya the administration's handling or mishandling, seemed like an opportunity for mitt romney. here is how it played out last night. >> the day after the attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden and i tolgd the american people and the world we would fin out exactly what happened. that this was an act of terror. and i also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime. >> that's what mr. romney pounced, latching onto the rose garden statement. we're playing it at length so you can see the statement in context. >> the president just said something, which is the day after the attack he went in the rose garden and said that this was an act of terror. you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror? it was not a spontaneous
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demonstration. >> please proceed, governor. i want to make sure we get that for the record, because it took the president 14 days before he called the action in benghazi an act of terror. >> he actually did call it an act of terror. >> can you say that a little louder. >> he called it an act of terror. it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea of there to be a riot out there about this tape to come out, you're correct about that. >> the administration indicated this was a reaction to a video and a spontaneous reaction. it took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. >> the bigger question, what was the president meaning? the terror attack the night before in benghazi as he was in the final seven paragraphs of his remarks, or speaking what he mentioned in the paragraphs that followed?
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the 9/11 action attacks on new york and washington. and a similar phrase. four days after that, no one in the administration, for days after that, no one used the phrase terrorist attack to describe what everyone believes was a terrorist attack. two days after the fact, on "the view," joy behar said is it an act of terror? is it? he still said we're doing investigations. that was two weeks after he said this in the rose garden. >> yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. we mourned with the family who were lost on that day, i visited the graves of troop who's made the ultimate sacrifice in iraq and afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of arlington cemetery. and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at walter re e. and then last night we learned the news of this attack in
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benghazi. as americans, let us never, ever forget our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it. to stand up for it. and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. our country is only as strong as that of our people and the civilians and military who represent us around the globe. no act of terror will never shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. today we mourn four americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to make sure justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> so that's what the president said in the rose garden. a week later, an admission station official said it was terrorism, but a week later, the
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president wasn't saying that when directly asked. speechwriters come in handy when you have a speech to analyze. i spoke earlier with one of the all time best, david frum, former speechwriter for george w. bush, and a contributor to cnn, newsweek, and the daily beast. joining me is fareed zakaria. david, this debate over whether the president was specifically referring to the benghazi attack when he used acts of terror, as a former speechwriter, what was your take? >> that was a highly conditional statement in the rose garden. he said no act of terror. you write that when you say i'm not characterizing these acts. this is a general statement. it could have been delivered 24 hours before the attacks as well as 24 hours after. it was a way of putting something on the record without fully endorsing it. a mild lean forward. you can almost imagine, somebody wrote this act of terror and that was scratched out in the
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staffing process and replaced with the less committed formula, no act of terror. >> do you have any reason to believe that president was not referring to benghazi when he said act of terror in those remarks? >> look, the common sense reading of it was he was referring to acts of terror as an artful interpretation that david has. i think this is a red herring. look, even if a mob had spontaneously gathered because of the video and decided to charge the u.s. embassy and killed the u.s. ambassador, two navy s.e.a.l.s and another american, that's still an act of terrorism. right? terrorism is basically the taking of the lives of particularly civilians in a political act that is designed to have some kind of political impact. that strikes me as a strike of terrorism whether it was a mob or al qaeda. was it an act of terrorism perpetrated by a terrorist organization, affiliated with al qaeda and planning and
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forthright? that we don't know. i don't really see how it wasn't an act of terrorism no matter who did it. >> do you think mr. romney missed an opportunity by focusing on the word terror that the president used in the rose garden speech as opposed to the nearly 14 days or whatever it was that they were still unclear about what happened? >> and continue. look, governor romney had good cards, he overplayed them and the president was age to push him back and pushed him back pretty hard, and he suffered for it. we're not at the point where the administration -- any of us exactly know, nor are we at the point where the administration has given up on trying to sell a false narrative. no one is saying this is treason, impeachable often offense there, are four people dead. the question hanging in the air is was the libya war a good idea? this is -- president obama has two wars, afghanistan, which he escalated. libya, which he chose, and the question, what is the outcome in
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libya? is it a success or not? >> you think it hinges on whether or not you have one terrorist -- that would have the chilling effect on any further american interventions, political or military, if one gang somewhere could a few years later launch an attack on a consulate, the whole thing was a bad idea. the green zone in iraq was shelled routinely. >> no one is thinking about libya. but in the month before the election to talk openly about what happen to ambassador stevens, reminding people, there is still no government in libya, still no security in libya, al qaeda entities, al qaeda affiliated entities are moving freely in libya, in fact, they are the most armed people in the country, and it raises the question, what did this war accomplish? and i think most people. most people view a show like this, a very news savvy audience
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don't know isn't a government in libya. >> that's not entirely true, david. there were elections, muslim fundamentalists lost badly. a moderate liberal pro western government was nominated. the institutions of government are not very strong in libya, but to categorize it as there being no government misses a very important election that took place and many conservatives lauded it because it brought to power moderate pro western liberals. >> what did we get? that's the debate the administration doesn't want to have this month and that's the debate driven home by the events in benghazi. and that is why the administration is so keen to make this a story about a spontaneous reaction to a movie made in america. nothing to do with us and nothing to do with our decision s maybe those are good decisions, all things considered. we chose the lesser evil.
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i think a question we would think about a lot. fareed, i want to ask you about the special. we heard both candidates talk about energy policy, gas prices, you've got a show on sunday called global lessons, the gps roadmap for powering america. a complicated topic. but high gas prices hurt the president? >> high gas prices hurt the president. high gas prices in some parts. because the economy is recovering and growth all over the world. the chinese want more gas, the indians want more gas. both of them agree we want energy independence and both telling you how they would achieve it. mostly happening for reasons that have very little to do with the president. happening because of shale gas, extraordinary technology that is revoluti revolutionizing our ability to extract. controversial and a need to study it and regulate it, but the simple fact is that the united states is likely by the end of the decade to export more
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petroleum and natural gas than saudi arabia. >> wow, that's incredible. candidates' words aren't the only thing being parsed. what is their body language saying? experts weigh in, ahead. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours.
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tense exchanges in each other's space. we decode the body language.
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experts weigh in on the nonverbal fireworks in round two of president obama versus governor romney. that next.
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up close during last night's town hall style debate. they were able to move around
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the stage. they ended up inches apart. at times it looked like a boxing ring. a much moran mated president obama. a sharp contrast to the first debate. the body language of both candidates being parsed as closely as their words. i spoke to brett o'donnell, a former debate strategist for mitt romney and also jeanne dr ene driver, a body language expert. let's talk about this. >> that's the strategy and that's what we're going to do. >> what do you seeing in on? >> right here, watch. we're doing chopping right here this is chopping and this chop is pointing to the president. we'll get into this debate here, look at this chopping, looking at each other, in each other's -- in each other's space, right. this is very interesting. when the president stands back up, this is man to man, and interesting, although they are having this debate, anderson,
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not coming across as contemptuous. contempt is superiority, i'm better than you. like two brothers having a disagreement. still professionalism. >> the president didn't want to be seen sitting down when governor romney was addressing to him. >> we saw the president engage candy quite a bit. he would literally walk toward candy. we are less than 18 inches, in someone's personal zone. we see that many times, where they are in each other's personal zone. >> one of the exchanges over drilling on public lands, and you say it sort of got away from mitt romney. how so? >> i think that instead of just making his point, asking the question, he just asked it repeatedly. he did it with the exchange as well. >> asking the president. re . >> repeatedly. he looked defensive, overly aggressive with the president, and it could have been misperceived.
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>> better for him to say one time, you know, has drilling gone down? drilling gone up on public lands or whatever and moved on. >> make your argument, moreover on. >> a lot of back and forth about libya as well. that exchange. >> it took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. and to suggest, am i incorrect in that regard? on sunday, the. >> kahne. >> the president says, hey, i want to address this issue. the palm down, this has to be handled. when police come in do a raid, they say on the ground, they don't say on the ground. we also see that with mitt romney when he's asked about how he is similar to g.w. or different to g.w. this is palm down this is saying i don't really like your question. and a stalling technique. >> you were saying, the libya exchange, probably the most decisive blow. >> the president looked
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presidential. the president did this righteous indignation, where you would accuse me or my team of playing politics. >> up until that point, i thought it was even with regard to body language and verbal at that point with libya, i felt like the president stepped out of the role of i'm a man of running for president, into the role of i'm current president. his gestures really intense and it was i'm not using this as a ploy to become president. >> was it a mace take for romney to focus on the rose garden speech? in the rose garden speech. >> the facts are on governor romney's side. >> the administration didn't talk about this. >> but he focused on that one word, did you say terror?
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instead of on the larger context. if you notice, the president's response was please proceed, governor. >> the cnn poll, it did reflect that president obama felt overall won on economics, on taxes, on deficit. they felt governor romney won the debate. >> that's reflected in those exchanges. libya exchange, a couple of exchanges in the debate where governor romney pursuing a question that the president wouldn't give him the answer he wanted, it frustrated him. >> what surprised you most in this. >> after libya, what we saw, i believe that what we notice is that we saw an increase in pacing then with mitt romney. the president really knocked it out of park. >> the key for governor romney, focus on the economy moving forward. >> absolutely. >> even foreign policy debate.
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there is a way to relate foreign policy back to security. that's what the president has to do. >> thank you for being here. senator john mccain debating barack obama. he was watching closely. senator mccain joins me ahead. the big "360" interview. we'll talk about syria as well. n your own butter too? what? this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier sure does who are you? [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. ♪ ambiance [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. your head-start to home cooked.
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town hall forum, traky one for candidates, and john mccain faced off with then candidate obama in belmont, tennessee. take a look. >> senator mccain suggests that somehow, you know, i'm green behind the ears and i just spouting off and he's somber and responsible. >> thank you very much. >> senator mccain, this is the
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guy who sang bomb-bomb- bomb iran. who called for the annihilation of north korea. this isn't an example of speaking softly. we haven't even finished afghanistan and said next up, baghdad. >> if we'd like to go back and forth, i'd like equal time to respond. >> last word here and then we move on. >> not true. not true. i have obviously supported those efforts that the united states has had to go in militarily and i have opposed those that i didn't think so. i understand what it's like to send young americans into harm's away. >> four years ago, senator mccain watching last night's debate closely. he joins me for the big "360" interview. we heard that heated exchange from four years ago and you know what it's like to be on that stage in the midst of rough and tumble. some said they liked the sparring, others turned off by it. have you been involved in it,
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sparring and not. do you think more people are turned off by it than are pleased by it? i think more people are turned off by it, anderson, because when people start talking over each other, and really exchanging barbs, i don't think viewers get a lot out of the. it is what it is. we saw the vice president basically being very disrespectful to paul ryan and there was a lot of back and forth last night, but i just -- i think most people that i talked to that come up to me say, they wished they would be a little more respectful. not a lot, but a little more. >> on benghazi, still big questions to be asked, why wasn't there more security for the ambassador, why did the administration's narrative change so many times? the direct question last night didn't get directly answered, but by focusing on the rose
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garden statement, and the focus on terror, did mitt romney miss an opportunity? >> i think so in a way, he did, because i think that when you look at the president's rose garden statement, that it really wasn't talking about that act, and the recent why i don't think he was, he later went on "the view," went on "letterman" and others and kept repeating what they had sent his u.n. ambassador out to say, this was a hateful video that triggered this demonstration, or we don't know what caused it. we knew -- we knew within hours, anderson, that this was a coordinated attack, with heavy weapons, and we now know one of the leaders of one of the al qaeda related groups was even there. it was obvious this was not -- there was no demonstration whatsoever. and when they keep saying, well, wait until we have a full and complete investigation. some facts are obvious now.
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and i would like to mention one other aspect if i could. back in april and june, there were attacks on the u.s. embassy, one an ied, very serious. the british ambassador was attacked. the british closed their consulate. the red cross left. was the president briefed about the danger there? i don't expect to know whether 16 people stayed or whether? but shouldn't he have been briefed about the deteriorating situation in benghazi, where it was obvious that al qaeda was coming in across the border? that's what the question should be. what did the president know, when did he know it? and what did he do about it? obviously not much. i want to ask you about syria. the "the new york times" is reporting that most of the weapons flowing to syria are going to islamic jihadists, why is it we have not been able to identify more moderate groups? have we been able to identify
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and the folks sending the weapons have sympathies maybe with jihadists and sending them to these groups that they are? >> it makes me so sad. makes me so sad. >> he predicted this. you were talking about this before anyone else. >> it's so sad, because there are legitimate elements that you and i had even met, both inside and just outside of syria, and there has been a flood of jihadists into syria as this thing has dragged out for now 18 months and over 30,000. and it's a failure of american leadership. you know, and let me just say, it's well known that over the years, that the saudis have supported salifists and other extreme groups, so has qatar, so it's not surprising, but where is american leadership to say to them, by the way, stop that, and
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we'll do the job. make sure the weapons get in. that's what american leadership is about. i could go on and on. tensions on the border of all of those countries is dramatically increased. the slaughter goes on, russians continue to step up their armed supplies. iranians are overflying iraq, supplies of arms, and it's -- the tragedy goes on and it cries out for american leadership, and it's just not there. i don't know what the turks are going to do. i know the turks are crying out for leadership. >> governor romney critical of the leadership for not acting sooner, for calling assad a reformer early on. but recently, he called forearming the rebels, but stopped short of saying the u.s. should provide weapons. his staff said the governor would rely on allies to do that, which is unnamed allies, but basically what the obama administration is already doing,
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isn't it? >> i don't think they are doing it they say they are, but the fact is they are not doing it, because the arms are going into the wrong people. as we said at the beginning of our conversation. obviously, i support strongly providing them with weapons, i hope that governor romney will agree with our position. >> you think ythe u.s. should directly supply them with weapons. >> i've always said that, and i think mitt romney is right, we should play a much greater and stronger role in making sure those weapons go to the right people, which is obviously not the case now because of a lack of american leadership. >> senator mccain, thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up, an update on the 14-year-old girl marked for death and shot by the pakistani taliban for advocating the education of girls. how she's doing tonight, and the
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mcdonald's in the early 1990s. the most important celebrity alive weighs in on the presidential election. you may not understand what she is actually saying, and she has not heard of one of the candidates. "the ridiculoust" is next. based on this chart ? don't rush into it, i'm not looking for the fastest answer. obviously verizon. okay, i have a different chart. going that way, does that make a difference ? look at verizon. it's so much more than the other ones. so what if we just changed the format altogether ? isn't that the exact same thing ? it's pretty clear. still sticking with verizon. verizon. more 4g lte coverage than all other networks combined. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times.
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tone, we're adding celebrity endorsements for presidentment. they have been rendered completely obsolete. the only celebrity that really matters just weighed in. no one else needs to say anything else from this point forward. i'm speaking, of course, about honey boo-boo. >> do you know who mitt romney
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is? >> no. >> do you know who barack obama is? >> the president. >> he's the president, yeah. they asked on the kelly and michael show, they asked mitt romney if he preferred snooki or honey boo-boo. do you know what he said? he said he preferred snooki. so now i have to ask you, who are you going to support for president, mitt romney or barack obama. >> who said that? >> mitt romney said that. >> barack obama. >> so you're supporting barack obama. >> honey boo-boo has spoken on jimmy kimmel live. and without translation. she's too young to vote and she doesn't know exactly who mitt romney is, and i think she may have said marack obama. but that tiny tornado is a force to be wreckoned with. her show got a higher rating than the republican national convention. when you look at it that way,
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mitt romney may be regretting his answer to the fateful question. >> this is the most serious question of all. honey boo-boo or snooki? >> do you know who either of these two people are? >> i'm kind of a snooki fan. >> had a baby now. >> look how tiny she's gotten. lost weight and she's energetic, just her spark plug personality. >> let's be honest, snooki does have a spark plug personality. but, come on, so does honey boo-boo. i speak from experience. she and her mom were on my daytime show and i did a pretty good job of keeping the train on the tracks, your honor the circumstances. >> so, june, is -- you're not -- >> you better red neck-ignize. >> she's a mess. >> she's a good mess. >> how do you deal with the controversy. it's interesting, you go to your facebook page and there is -- there are people who love yo

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